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Published Date:
10 August 2007
A SHOCKED resident claims shirty officials told him his top was so offensive it could "incite a riot".
David Pratt was warned he could be slapped with an £80 on-the-spot fine if he is caught wearing the offending garment again – which is emblazoned with the words: Don't p**** me off – I am running out of places to hide the bodies!

The fork-lift truck driver, from Blackmead, Orton Malborne, was collared by Peterborough City Council wardens who told him CCTV had been monitoring him as he shopped in the city's Asda and Poundland stores in the Rivergate/Bridge Street area.

At first Mr Pratt thought they were T-easing him, but he soon realised they were serious when he was threatened with the fine.

His wife Elly, who bought the T-shirt in Venice Beach, Los Angeles, said: "It was so humiliating – there were people gathering round and people rubbernecking to see what was going on.

"I cannot believe anyone would find offence with the wording as it is only worn to make the reader smile."

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The council argues that using offensive, abusive, or insulting language is an offence, which applies also when it appears in print.

Mrs Pratt said she did not consider p**** to be a swear word. She said: "I definitely do not think it is. It is not particularly nice word, but in my view is not a swear word."

However, she says wardens took the view it could offend some people.

Mrs Pratt added: "We told them that the said T-shirt had been worn in town many times and everyone who had commented on it had thought it was very amusing.

"This included two lady police officers who were on duty back last summer when my husband stopped to talk to them."

She said the pair were sitting on a bench just outside Poundland having a smoke because they had just missed the bus, when they were approached by the officials.

She added: "Our argument is not with the Street Wardens as we told them, they are only doing their job.

"I am just concerned that the CCTV operator were looking at our T-shirts when they should be looking out for robbers and shoplifters."

She said since the incident people have been asking where they can buy the T-shirts. "We are thinking about setting up a stall to sell them!," she joked.

A spokesman for Peterborough City Council said: "The incident is the subject of an official complaint to the council and is currently under investigation.

"However, using offensive, abusive, or insulting language is an offence under the Public Order Act, which also applies to such language appearing in print.

"In what was an amicable conversation, the street warden advised the gentleman concerned that his T-shirt could cause offence and if he was to wear it again he could run the risk of being issued an £80 fine from the police."


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  • Last Updated: 10 August 2007 11:57 AM
  • Source: Peterborough ET
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Angiecat,

Pottyborough 10/08/2007 12:45:45
How ridiculous is this? This is a supposedly free country and now our city has decided to impose fines on people for wearing what they class as "offensively"sloganed garments.Get real there are far more important things in life to worry about,obviously the street wardens had nothing better to do that day.I think we should all get a t-shirt like that and do a mass walk around Pottyboroughs town centre!
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Crowlord,

Eye 10/08/2007 13:38:07
Of course it is offensive, otherwise why is it blurred out in the photo. Why also asterisked? This is less of an open forum then in the street so why would it be ok there and not here?
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RomanyRon,

10/08/2007 13:56:30
I certainly wouldn't want my children to see the slogan. Top marks to the Streen Wardens and fine him the eighty pounds.
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Anoymous,

Peterborough 10/08/2007 14:21:25
This is pathetic and just another way for the goverment to make money! this country is "suppose" to be demorcratic?? but now ae are too busy worrying about offending people and being pc. this is taken to far and soon we wont even be able to speak an opinion as we wish! there are many t shirts about like this, cctv goona spend all their time on this then are they as well as fag butts being dropped and cycling on a kerb - PATHETIC!!!
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BettyG,

Peterborough 10/08/2007 15:11:32
first a lady gets told to cover up in the park then a man gets fined for wearing a offensive T-shirt? Are the police and the street wardens of this town sooo bored that they feel the need to tend to petty things such as these?! What about watching the shoplifters and doing more to help the community in a helpful way. I don't see the point of the street wardens, what do they really do to help us? Stop wasting our tax money on paying for all this & sort out the real crime issues.
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Simple Simon,

Peterborough 10/08/2007 15:25:04
Firstly, anyone who finds this word offensive is either a hermit or a Mary Whitehouse re-incarnated. Secondly, any parent who is concerned for their children seeing/hearing this word might as well take them out of school completely. I have heard worse from the children in the playground, and the parents. You wonder why our council didn't hike coucil tax? They are recouping it 10 fold on spot-fines for those with a sense of humour or who enjoy a smoke. Before long you will need written permission to walk on the pavement, a consent form signed by the government to speak to one-another and written proof that you are in fact a mindless drone in order to actually live in a city. We are soon to celebrate the abolition of slavery, however in my opinion we are fast becoming slaves to the politically correct sector who are offending the basic principles of individuality. an £80 fine should be issued to the street warden for infringing on an idividuals right to express themselves.
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Simple Simon,

Peterborough 10/08/2007 15:25:21
Firstly, anyone who finds this word offensive is either a hermit or a Mary Whitehouse re-incarnated. Secondly, any parent who is concerned for their children seeing/hearing this word might as well take them out of school completely. I have heard worse from the children in the playground, and the parents. You wonder why our council didn't hike coucil tax? They are recouping it 10 fold on spot-fines for those with a sense of humour or who enjoy a smoke. Before long you will need written permission to walk on the pavement, a consent form signed by the government to speak to one-another and written proof that you are in fact a mindless drone in order to actually live in a city. We are soon to celebrate the abolition of slavery, however in my opinion we are fast becoming slaves to the politically correct sector who are offending the basic principles of individuality. an £80 fine should be issued to the street warden for infringing on an idividuals right to express themselves.
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The Viking,

Bourne 10/08/2007 15:26:18
Wether this is offensive or not is down to the perception of the individual, some will be offended some won't but the law already covers it under Section 5 of the Public Order Act (1) A person is guilty of an offence if he— (a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or .(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby. ....Not sure Street Wardens can issue tickets for that though!
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Stefan,

10/08/2007 15:27:29
What on earth is Peterborough coming to! banning T-shirts. next it will be Zeig Heil
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Stefan,

10/08/2007 15:29:56
How will they issue a fine if the wearer refuses to give information? Frog martch him intothe police station.
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