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Readers' letters: Roads in the city just aren't safe for cyclists 27/08/2008



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Published Date: 27 August 2008
"Pavements are for people not pedals" according to a recent Peterborough E-Cops newsletter I've just received, but I would rather use the pavements than try to negotiate some of the city's roads on my bicycle.
Can you imagine the frustration I would cause to road users by cycling up over the Town Bridge, round the Bridge Street police station by Rivergate and along Bourges Boulevard? I replied to an earlier e-mail from Carol Bayes from the policing team but have had no response.

Cyclists on pavements are generally more considerate and more aware of others around them than pedestrians so why the sudden campaign against cyclists? Is this really the best use of police resources?

In the E-Cops e-mails she repeatedly recommends the use of a cycle helmet, which is commendable, however a foam helmet doesn't make you any less of a target for heavy traffic. While it may help to protect your head during a fall, what about the rest of your body as you fly through the air after being knocked off by a speeding taxi?

Posties deliver by bicycle on the pavements, so how do they manage it?

Several of the official Peterborough cycleways are shared by pedestrians and cycle users alike, so why is that section of pavement any different to the pavement on the Town Bridge?

Why was there no provision made for cyclists during the recent Town Bridge developments? Now there is a foot-thick concrete barrier between pedestrians and the road (but only on one side of the bridge), where that space would have been put to better use by installing a dedicated cycle lane.
Jonathan Frascella

Village is proud of its Olympic star
Eye Village is incredibly proud of Louis Smith, and as a fellow resident living in the same street I would just like to share with you one of the photos that I took on the evening when he came home.

I would just like to add he took out time to see those who turned out in the street, and time for the children to have their photo's taken with him – and, of course, show off his medal.

Well done Louis and look out 2012.
Debbie Fryer
Cleve Place,
Eye,
near Peterborough

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  • Last Updated: 27 August 2008 12:07 PM
  • Source: Peterborough ET
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reded,

27/08/2008 13:37:02
Cyclists get a bad deal from the conservative council who reckon they want to be the environment capital of the UK. We have had government money for sustainable transport and got some fancy lights and signs, we had millions for the new bridge and new schools - but where are the dedicated hard cycle routes, and the North Westgate proposals excluded cyclists. Park road and Lincoln road should have had new cycle routes especially to the new school and PRC. I have asked the police to patrol the cycle routes and would love to get some of the underpasses removed so cyclists and pedestrians have a clear safe route (Russell Street). Put the cars underground.
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Running resident,

27/08/2008 14:40:59
"Cyclists on pavements are generally more considerate and more aware of others around them than pedestrians "

Pleqase point out these cyclists to me, as I am sick to the back teeth of being terrorised by cyclists coming behind and in front of me when out walking or running, I lose count of the times I have to leap into the raod to get out of the way of a cyclist wrongly using the pacement.
Fair enough cyclists should use the shared cycleway/footpath, but not the regular footpaths that are meant for pedestrians.
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dungeon68,

im not an olympian cyclist,orton 27/08/2008 14:44:56
totally agree,i cycle to work every day rain or shine from orton to fengate,the cycle lanes are unlit down the side of the nene,so i decided i would cycle down oundle road for a change,and to my fright was nearly knocked down twice on the way had two car doors opened on me and a car zoom passed me and whack me with a mirror severly bruising my arm,i cycle the bike path home only to have pedestrians walking on a cycle path,will they get fined like i would if i was caught on a path,NO..we are meant to be 'going green'cycling being the greenist option,sort out the proper cycle lanes and we wouldnt have to cycle on the paths.
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Alan Yaxley,

Yaxley 27/08/2008 15:32:54
I will never use the roads in Peterborough on a cycle, nor will i allow my kids, its just too dangerous.
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The Viking,

27/08/2008 16:38:37
Cyclist should not be on the pavement. Unless they are children who are to young to be on the road. If you do not have the confidence to ride your bike on the road, then book yourself onto a Bikeability Course.
Yes posties ride on the pavement, well actually they tend to push thier bikes on the pavements or just scoot to the next house. Your local PCSO / Pc will also ride on the pavement, but if you want to complain about that then expect them to take the long way around on the road next time they have to come to your aid in a hurry instead of the direct A-B route.

Peterborough City Council do not run Bike-a-bility courses, some of our PCSO's are qualified instructors, so maybe talk to your local NPT office about running courses. Failing that contact the local instructors.
And don't forget to get your lights sorted out bfore the nights draw in....because that's another £30 fine.
PS to move errant peds from the cycle lane....invest in an air horn....
ridingabike.co.uk
Richard Cooper
077 65 880 440
bikeability@ridingabike.co.uk
www.ridingabike.co.uk

Cycling Solutions CIC
Colin Langdon
0845 347 9381
info@cyclingsolutions.co.uk
www.cyclingsolutions.co.uk

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Dan Jackson,

27/08/2008 16:55:42
The roads in the city are awful and I see many cars almost try to hit cyclists rather than go wide and avoid them.

However, cyclists should not be on the pavement and if such as on Bridge Street or the alley near Asda they refuse to move they should be done. I find if you refuse to move for them when they should not be on the pavement then they soon stop or move.

Perhaps PCC should stop kidding us and start spending money on better cycle and pedestrian areas.
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John Pinter,

27/08/2008 17:23:48
I agree. Why is the road one way for cyclists along Park Road? To cycle home each night I have to negotiate the traffic lights by the job centre, and the very busy roundabout betweene Burleigh St and Park Road. It seems daft,especially as park road is wide enough for a bike lane.
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nkmabm,

27/08/2008 18:12:21
What a bunch of hypocrites some cyclists are!!
"The roads are too dangerous for us poor defenceless little cyclists because the nasty big cars intimidate us".
So what are we going to do?
We're going to intimidate poor defenceless little pedestrians by doing to them exactly what the cars are doing to us - scaring us when we go about our lawful business.
Maybe people like Alan Yaxley will be walking along a pavement one day when a cyclist smashes into him from behind and breaks his leg. How will he feel about the issue then?
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aw29,

Peterborough 27/08/2008 21:42:35
Footpaths are not safe or accessible to pedestrians either - with cyclists, bins, and cars parked all over the footpaths, I am not sure where the pedestrian is supposed to walk? Perhaps someone could enlighten me?
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Joff,

Peterborough 28/08/2008 08:18:49
The headline is a bit misleading - many of the roads around Peterborough are perfectly adequate for shared use between cyclists and motor vehicles, yet there are some which due to road design, increase the risk to both cyclists and motorists (due to the obstruction caused by cyclists).

Bridge Street itself is pretty much always heavy with foot traffic so I'm in favour of the current ban on cycling.

Oundle Road has a commendable cycle lane pretty much for it's entirety, yet it is often blocked by parked vehicles or used by motorists to give themselves more room on the road (such as over the bridge by Botolph Green).

What we need is more common sense by the Police / PCSO rather than a blanket no on-street cycling enforcement where it's not needed.

The pavement running alongside Bourges Boulevard by the Railway car park (opposite the ET offices) has a white line painted down the middle, making it quite narrow for pedestrians and cyclists to pass even when they're both in their own "lane".
Why doesn't the Town Bridge have a similar white line when the pavement is wider and can easily accommodate this safety measure?
What makes this white line so special that it allows cyclists to use the pavement there but not anywhere else?

Running resident - I'm one of those considerate cyclists. *waves*

Viking - It's not about having the confidence on the roads, it's about causing an obstruction on the roads due to what could be deemed inconsiderate cycling by the Police or PCSO. If I'm crossing two lanes of traffic over the town bridge at a snails pace, then I hope all the traffic behind me is as patient as I'm sure you would be.
If the Police / PCSO are riding on the pavement, then what is the magical bubble they are surrounded in that prevents them from being a danger to pedestrians? Do they now fit blues and twos to Police-issue MTBs?

Dan - I looked at the weekend and I don't think the alleyway between Rivergate and Asda requires cyclists to dismount. I
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